Pitching Depth & General Discussion (2023)

[Nutriaitch]

Money's numbers aren't terrible. Other than he can't seem to stop giving up dingers.

his WHIP is 1.31, which isn't a bad number, and teams are only hitting .243 against him (a very respectable number).
he just gives up that damn homer every game.

 

[Nutriaitch]

I've been pouring over the numbers for the last 3 days now.

Other than Hurd, nobody on this staff has eye poppingly atrocious numbers.
And that's just generically speaking, not even comparing to rest of the SEC.a few relievers have ERA's higher than I'd like, but some of those are somewhat artificially inflated due to low inning counts and 1-2 bad performances.
(for example, letting Hellmers and Bucknam both just take a beating on a miserable weather night where the ball was jumping out the park in South Carolina).

Christian Little's numbers are actually WAAAAY better than I expected to see.
3.86 ERA with a 1.21 WHIP.  He's also sporting a solid 12.34 K/9IP.
Just need to see if we can find a way to stretch him out a bit longer (would love to see him averaging 3+ IP per appearance), then he would be a decent Sunday starter for us.

Bryce Collins has quietly given up only 1 hit and ZERO runs over his last nine innings pitched while ringing up 13 Ks (would like to see him lower those 6 walks, but that's not awful).

 

 

[Nutriaitch]

So, back to the original premise of this thread.

How do we get to 27 innings over a weekend with this staff?

Paul Skenes will get you 6 (he's gone 7 twice, but we'll stick with his average of 6 for now)
Ty Floyd is good for 4+, we'll call it 5 just to make the Math easier
Little is averaging 3 in SEC play, so that's the number I'll use for now.

That 15 innings from your starters
Stapleton is a guaranteed 2 in a weekend. 
Collins has become a 2 innings per weekend guy.
Herring is 2 more innings.
Guidry is probably your closer and can give you multiple 1 innings outings. We'll list his as 2 innings.

We're up to 23 innings and only need 4 more.

If Ackenhousen is back, he can get you 2 of those 4.
Coleman can definitely get you 1.

That leaves you needing 1 inning from some combination of:
Money
Yellowstone
Hellmers
Bucknam
Hurd

on paper at least, that's doable more often than not.
and that's leaving Edwards and Shores completely out of the equation until we hear otherwise.

[Hatchertiger]

SEC Games only:

For some reason this is the only stat I could post separately.  Click on the twitter link for the rest.

Edited April 20, 2023 by Hatchertiger

[Nutriaitch]

19 hours ago, Hatchertiger said:

SEC Games only:

I haven't separated all the SEC only games (probably won't, I'm not THAT big of a nerd). 
But our statistical ranking nationally are also quite Respectable.

#32 in ERA

#12 in WHIP

#4 in K/9ip

#18 in K/BB

 

 

[Nutriaitch]

oh also in top 5 for fewest hits allowed per game

[Hatchertiger]

Part of the issue with ALL of our pitchers is that we have Skenes on the roster. Who could measure up to him?  Not saying we don't need improvement with the rest of the staff.  But pitchers like Skenes or Nola are in rare air for sure.

[Nutriaitch]

26 minutes ago, Hatchertiger said:

 But pitchers like Skenes or Nola are in rare air for sure.

that they are, but we've been fortunate enough to have a few of them in that stratosphere:
Skenes, Nola, Lange, Gausman 

[Nutriaitch]

so yesterday and today was EXACTLY what we need every weekend.

Skenes - 6 innings
Herring - 3 Innings
Floyd - 8 1/3 innings
Ackenhousen 2/3 innings (only 14 pitches)

means basically we have everybody else (including another possible inning from Ack) available tomorrow.
 

[Fishhead]

I'd take another big outing from someone like today's. Little?

[Nutriaitch]

6 minutes ago, Fishhead said:

I'd take another big outing from someone like today's. Little?

shyte, give me 3 from Little. Anything above that would be Lagniappe.

from there all we need is 6 from, well, everyone not named Skenes, Herring, Floyd.

that's as doable as you could possibly ask for in this conference.

[Nutriaitch]

On 4/22/2023 at 9:48 PM, Fishhead said:

I'd take another big outing from someone like today's. Little?

how's 5-1/3 from Little sound?

 

[Hatchertiger]

Little did we know he'd come up big for us this weekend.

[Nutriaitch]

On 4/20/2023 at 8:51 AM, Nutriaitch said:

Other than Hurd, nobody on this staff has eye poppingly atrocious numbers.

OK, after bashing him for a few weeks, I have to now give him credit.

8-2/3 innings pitched.
4 hits, 2 earned runs (2.08 ERA) and a pair of saves, only 4 hits.

[Nutriaitch]

Skenes and Floyd both turn in possibly their best outings of the season and we still lose a series. 

[Nutriaitch]

10 hours ago, Nutriaitch said:

Skenes and Floyd both turn in possibly their best outings of the season and we still lose a series. 

want to know how you lose a series to a team struggling to even qualify for the SEC tourney when having nights like Skenes and Floyd had?

simple. have your bullpen turn in one of the most shitastic weekends I ever saw.

Stats for non-starters that "pitched" this weekend

23.50 team ERA 
3.79 team WHIP 

20 earned runs over 7-2/3 innings.
TWENTY!!!!!!
Can you Imagine looking up at the scoreboard with 2 outs in the 8th and your opponent has fornicating TWENTY?
yeah, we just did that.
to a team that is STILL in the bottom 5 of the league in runs scored.

for the 2nd time this season, Thatcher Hurd turned in an infinity symbol (5 earned without recording a single out) in an SEC game
Christian Little tossed up an eye popping 109.09 ERA. seriously. ONE-OH-NINE.  And his 12.12 WHIP may be the most ridiculous number I've ever seen in that column if not for Hurd going to Infinity and Beyond (twice).
Gavin Guidry, who was the best bullpen arm we had early on posted a 40.54.
Ackenhousen's was 27.00

those made Stapleton (9.00) and Money (6.75) look like All-American type performances.

 

 

 

[Hatchertiger]

Current state of bull pen

[Nutriaitch]

22 minutes ago, Hatchertiger said:

Current state of bull pen

 

[Hatchertiger]

#LSU pitching this weekend in the series loss to Mississippi State:

Skenes, Floyd, and Coleman: 15.2 IP, 8 hits, 3 ER, 5 BB, 28 K, 0 HR

Bullpen: 10.1 IP, 27 hits, 21 ER, 9 BB, 14 Ks, 5 HR

[Nutriaitch]

47 minutes ago, Hatchertiger said:

#LSU pitching this weekend in the series loss to Mississippi State:

Skenes, Floyd, and Coleman: 15.2 IP, 8 hits, 3 ER, 5 BB, 28 K, 0 HR

Bullpen: 10.1 IP, 27 hits, 21 ER, 9 BB, 14 Ks, 5 HR

Skenes gave up a dinger

[Hatchertiger]

2 hours ago, Nutriaitch said:

Skenes gave up a dinger

Cut and pasted from Mikie Mahtook Twitter feed. Take your grievances to him

[Nutriaitch]

24 minutes ago, Hatchertiger said:

Cut and pasted from Mikie Mahtook Twitter feed. Take your grievances to him

dammit. 

can i blame someone other than him? 

[Big T]

2 hours ago, Nutriaitch said:

you would have left what was considered one of the top transfer arms in the entire country?

 

I'm glad you're not in charge of recruiting.

He doesn't seem to be pitching like "one of top arms" 

It's time to produce.  So far, aside from last night he is a bust.

[Nutriaitch]

11 minutes ago, Big T said:

He doesn't seem to be pitching like "one of top arms" 

now, yeah.
but at the time he was in the portal where you would have left him, he wasn't.

11 minutes ago, Big T said:

It's time to produce.  So far, aside from last night he is a bust.

He's had multiple stretches that were very impressive.  we have him another year, so too early to call him a bust just yet.

[Fishhead]

5 hours ago, Big T said:

You could tell Skenes was off from about the 3rd inning, but he recovered and threw what, 115,116? He made a few mistakes and paid for them.  I'm not trading 10 Thatchers for one Skenes. Not today not ever. I'd have left him in the portal. 

So wait, you're saying it's not good to throw strikes now? 

I'm so confused