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Game Topic: LSU vs USC ... 9/1/23 ... 6:30pm ... ABC


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I was at the LSU/UCSW game in 1979, had season tickets. Took my Dad to the game. Great atmosphere in Tiger Stadium that night. 
 

Fast forward a few years later, my family living in Woodstock, Ga. I get a call from my sister, she said, " I'm sitting here talking with a former LSU Football Player, Benji Thibodeaux!" I told her to ask him about the USC game. When he heard me say that, he asked when I was coming up that way. She said, in about two weeks. Benji wanted to do lunch or dinner. 
Two weeks later, I'm eating lunch with Benji and his brother Robert. We talked about a number of things. Lunch lasted about 3 or more hours. I told Robert about a story he never knew who did this. Robert is Benji's younger brother. He was being recruited by Bear at Gumps. Were Robert lived, during the recruitment, someone parked a P&G painted Cadillac on the street, left it there for days. The Thibodeaux family never knew who left the car there. I told them, it was my good friend, Bill "Chico" Moore. 
 

This meeting was in 2001, Lyman White was arrested, Benji and Robert were asking me about that one. It was an enjoyable lunch and Tiger discussion. 
 

Speaking of recruiting, an Gumps. A buddy of mine, was flying in from a recruiting trip. In the airport, he saw Major Applewhite. Asking was he was doing in Tx. He said to talk with a QB. My buddy tells Major, why are you coming in wasting your time, that kid has been committed for a year to a Tx school. Major told Nick basically the same thing. Nicks reply, " I pay you well for what you do, when I tell you to do something, you do it!" Major then said, if he tells me to fly to Europe to look at a kid, I'm going to Europe. 
 

I have another Major Applewhite story, if I get time, that's another good story. 
 

 

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The Tigers have a ton of turnover which has taken center stage in debates about the team this off-season. Everyone has talked at length about the departures of Jayden Daniels, Malik Nabers and Brian Thomas, and the entire defensive staff being turned over. The move that hasn't been talked about enough is the decision Mike Denbrock made to leave LSU to return to Notre Dame.

While the Fighting Irish picked up a massive road win it wasn't because of explosive offense. Notre Dame won the game 23-13 but, Denbrock's offense truly only scored 20 points.

Notre Dame fans we're irate with Denbrock the entire game because of the way he used quarterback Riley Leonard. When Denbrock was hired it was made out that the Fighting Irish were getting the architect of an elite passing attack responsible for a Heisman Winner. It appears Notre Dame fans didn't get the guy they thought they did.

The coach on the LSU staff that deserves the most credit was Passing Game coordinator Cortez Hankton who now shares the Co-Offensive Coordinator job with Joe Sloan. Given how bad Denbrock's scheme was on Saturday night, the Tigers simply may get better if Sloan and Hankton's scheme is better.

LSU Football will have massive improvements at both coordinators

While a change wasn't needed at offensive coordinator or so it seemed, the LSU Football team may be better off after losing the coordinator responsible for one of the Nation's best offenses. The Tigers now have two fresh minded coaches in charge off the offense and you'll likely see it with the creative plays they'll have schemed up. Defensively, it won't take much from Blake Baker to improve this group but, if he takes it from outside the top-100 into the top-50 than this Tigers team will have a serious chance at the playoffs.

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My postmortem thoughts.

  1.  Every game matters.
    The last time we won a season opener was in 2018 2019 when Joe Burrow was under center and we had the greatest season of football in history. Much of this is due to scheduling - LSU doesn't schedule patsies for it's openers like many other teams do. This makes millions of dollars for the university because we are ALWAYS playing a ranked team on national TV each opening weekend.

    However, the coaching staff needs to have the team not only ready to play but ready to win these games. We didn't play bad last night we just didn't play good enough or make the plays we needed to make at the right times to win.

    Some say we SHOULD open the season with a patsy like the great BAMA does to iron out any kinks.  Personally, I like playing a real opponent for every game and I'd prefer us to not schedule the little sisters of the poor to get a cheap win.  
     
  2. I hate the University of Spoiled Children but honestly there is no shame in losing a close game to USC and this one literally came down to the wire. I'm upset that we lost, but it was a great game.
  3. The middle of our offensive line got abused and we did not have the players to abuse theirs - this is the game in a nutshell. It's not a cliche to say the game is won in the trenches, because it is. We didn't have the horses to be able to stuff it up the gut despite our efforts. Our RBs seems to get chopped down by arm tackles in many cases, which was frustrating.
  4. Our defense is improved. @Fishhead brought up in chat that Vegas knows something about betting lines and the over/under was won by people who bet on the under. Translated into the real world: our defense kept a potent Lincoln Riley coached offense to a very low scoring output. 
  5. Having said that, we got gashed when the condoms needed to gash us. That circus catch early in the 1st half set the tone, sadly.
  6. For all our top 10 recruiting classes, we don't have enough talent in the defensive backfield and have safeties playing corner. This depletes our safety depth. Can we get Jacoby Matthews back home, yesterday?
  7. Like other teams, we defer to seniority to some extent for starting positions.  This is part of our recruiting strategy in that we can assure commits that they will get a starting role if they stick with the program and put in their time. While I agree with that overall, I think we need to play the best players.

    Emery is a classic example here. You may recall that Emery was my mancrush (then was @houtiger's)...but he is a classic example of deferring to potential rather than actual productivity. He has historically underwhelmed.  He did have a few good plays against USCw but he was also getting stuffed when we absolutely needed him to just get us 2 yards for a 1st down. We all want him to succeed and I get that we should reward his loyalty and dedication to the program by trying to put him in position for NFL scouts.

    IMHO, I have to wonder if Kaleb Jackson or Trey Holly would have gotten the needed yards when Emery was getting stuffed. I speculate that Emery's 'seniority' wound up trumping putting in the youngsters who do not have a major injury in the very recent past.  I could be wrong.
  8. It's way too premature to write off the playoffs after a single loss. Right now, we're undefeated in conference games. Also, it is WAY better to lose a game early in the season than late in the season.
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Its was 2019, not 2018.  I wonder why they didnt let Nuss run the ball.  Any every time we ran it was up the middle into traffic.  Do we not have any other options?

Defense was better this year but still has a ways to go.  And prevent defense never prevents anything so I dont know why we do it.

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General observations: A. Despite the "we are gonna run the football" mantra we heard in the offseason, we did not run the ball very effectively; B. But if we are passing the ball very effectively, why stop? But that's what we did in the second half.  I know we need to develop the run game but we NEEDED to win this one. Practice the run game against Nichols; and C. D still gave up too many big plays and looked undisciplined at times. Yes, there is improvement.

Hopefully we we are ready to play next year when we open at Clemson.

Having said all that we have the makings of a good team. But they have to play smarter and our coaches have some mirror looking to do.

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27 minutes ago, Herb said:

My postmortem thoughts.

  1.  Every game matters.

expanding the playoffs eliminated that.

 

27 minutes ago, Herb said:

Emery is a classic example here. You may recall that Emery was my mancrush (then was @houtiger's)...but he is a classic example of deferring to potential rather than actual productivity. He has historically underwhelmed.  He did have a few good plays against USCw but he was also getting stuffed when we absolutely needed him to just get us 2 yards for a 1st down. We all want him to succeed and I get that we should reward his loyalty and dedication to the program by trying to put him in position for NFL scouts.

Emery was the best looking back we had last night.

27 minutes ago, Herb said:

IMHO, I have to wonder if Kaleb Jackson or Trey Holly would have gotten the needed yards when Emery was getting stuffed. I speculate that Emery's 'seniority' wound up trumping putting in the youngsters who do not have a major injury in the very recent past.  I could be wrong.

Kaleb Jackson got 6 carries last night and only averaged 3 yards per with a long run of 4. Nothing to show he might pop one like Emery did.

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It was an enjoyable game to watch because it was close and back and forth.  Nuss played well, as did Kyren Lacy and Mason Taylor.  We need more receivers to step up.  The o-line did well on pass protection, but run blocking still needs work (give credit to SC defense).  I was happy to see John Emery have 2 big plays, but other than that the RB's were unimpressive.  We didn't stop SC's passing game, but they have some very good WR and their QB is very good.  There were a lot of penalties, some of that can be corrected for next week.  Will Campbell, two off sides penalties is two too many.  He'll fix that.

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Didn’t help when Chris Hilton’s replacement Kyle Parker was hurt on the first? play of the game. But that’s part of the game and not the reason we lost. Team hasn’t established an identity. Say what you want about Miles, his teams were physical and that’s how they played.

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7 minutes ago, dachsie said:

What were the two personal foul penalties he's talking about?  One was the Targeting call but what was the other?

 

Lacy doing the shotgun thing after his first TD I believe. An unsportsmen like conduct but still had us KO 15 yd back and set them up for field position. They also got a nice return on it to boot

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3 hours ago, dachsie said:

What were the two personal foul penalties he's talking about?  One was the Targeting call but what was the other?

 

he was talking about the 2 unsportsmanlike fouls.

1. was the Lacy celebration LowT mentioned.

the other was on Burns after we stopped them on 4th down mid fourth quarter.

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