Title IX Independent Investigation

[Nutriaitch]

Just now, Nutriaitch said:

nah, it’s the right move to try to avoid it. 

most defense lawyers (i realize he’s not a “defendant”) will never let their clients take the stand. 

Especially with someone like O who has diarrhea of the mouth and constantly just says what he he thinks his audience at that time wants to hear. 

Anyone with any lawyering background at all on that panel could probably get him to admit to the Kennedy Assassination even though he was only 2 years old at the time. 

examples of O on this very topic

Initial report, says he “never spoke to Ms Scott.”

On T-Bob radio show a week or so ago he said he “doesn’t remember speaking to Ms Scott”

in his statement released this week he said he “never spoke directly to Ms Scott”

when discussing just everyday useless crap, those 3 statement say pretty much the same thing. 

in court, they can very easily be interpreted to mean 3 different things. 

A. Never means “never”
B. don’t remember means “it’s at least possible you did”
C. never directly means “we did actually communicate”

 

[houtiger]

OK, the bad news came out, LSU mishandled sexual abuse complaints against members of the football team by fellow LSU students, over a period of years.  They failed to adequately discipline the head football coach who was harassing student workers in the athletic dept. even after being told to stop.  We didn't have an adequate Title IX department to do the work properly if is was reported.  And staff in the athletic dept. that should have reported issues to the Title IX dept. did not report it.

Now, everybody know about it.  What happens next?  LSU slapped Ausberry and Segar on the wrist.  Title IX is a criminal statute, is anyone going to file charges against LSU?  The NCAA can take action, as they did in the Penn St. case a few years ago.
 

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Additionally, three Penn State officials – school president Graham Spanier, vice president Gary Schultz and athletic director Tim Curley – were charged with perjury, obstruction of justice, failure to report suspected child abuse, and related charges.^[4] The Penn State Board of Trustees commissioned an independent investigation by former FBI Director Louis Freeh, whose report stated that Penn State's longtime head football coach Joe Paterno, along with Spanier, Curley and Schultz, had known about allegations of child abuse by Sandusky as early as 1998, had shown "total and consistent disregard...for the safety and welfare of Sandusky's child victims", and "empowered" Sandusky to continue his acts of abuse by failing to disclose them.^[5]:14[6][7] Shortly after the scandal broke, Spanier resigned. The Board of Trustees terminated the contracts of Paterno and Curley.

As a result of the scandal, the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) imposed sanctions on the Penn State football program: a $60 million fine, a four-year postseason ban, scholarship reductions, and a vacation of all victories from 1998 to 2011.^[8] These sanctions were considered to be among the most severe ever imposed on an NCAA member school. NCAA President Mark Emmert stated that the sanctions were levied "not to be just punitive, but to make sure the university establishes an athletic culture and daily mindset in which football will never again be placed ahead of educating, nurturing and protecting young people."^[9][10] The Big Ten Conference subsequently imposed an additional $13 million fine.^[11]

The Paterno family retained former Attorney General Richard Thornburgh to conduct a review of the Freeh report, which concluded that the report constituted a "rush to injustice" that could not be relied upon^[12][13] and that Freeh's evidence fell "far short" of showing that Joe Paterno attempted to conceal the scandal, but rather that "the contrary is true".^[13] In January 2013, state senator Jake Corman and state treasurer Rob McCord sued the NCAA, seeking to overturn the Penn State sanctions on the basis that Freeh had been actively collaborating with the organization and that due process had not been followed. In November 2014, Corman released emails showing "regular and substantive" contact between Freeh's investigators and the NCAA, suggesting that Freeh's conclusions were orchestrated.^[14] As part of a settlement, the NCAA restored the 111 wins to Paterno's record on January 16, 2015.^[15][10]

On March 25, 2017, Curley, Schultz, and Spanier pleaded or were found guilty of misdemeanor charges of child endangerment.^[16] All conspiracy charges against Curley and Schultz were dropped, and Spanier was acquitted of conspiracy, the charges central to Louis Freeh's allegation of a cover-up.^[17][18] In June 2017, all three were sentenced to jail terms, fines, and probation for the misdemeanors.^[19] Spanier was sentenced to four to twelve months in jail, a $7,500 fine, and two years of probation.^[20] Spanier's misdemeanor conviction was subsequently overturned on appeal.^[21]

 

^{Does anyone get convicted of failing to report allegation of rape to the police, or is that the responsibility of the person raped when they are adults?  Based on the Penn St. actions, I could see the NCAA levy penalty for failure of the athletic dept. to properly report incidents of sex crimes to the Title IX office.}

^{Then you have the Sharon Lewis suit against LSU for retaliating against her for attempting to properly report harassment problems in the athletic dept.  That appears to have some legs, and at $50 million being sought, will probably come to a settlement for a lesser amount, and then Sharon will retire and enjoy her millions.}

^{So, what are you worried about?  What do you think will happen?  Does anyone go to jail?  Anyone lose their job?  Is it all going to blow over?}

[Nutriaitch]

8 minutes ago, houtiger said:

Now, everybody know about it.  What happens next?  LSU slapped Ausberry and Segar on the wrist.  Title IX is a criminal statute, is anyone going to file charges against LSU?  The NCAA can take action, as they did in the Penn St. case a few years ago.

Slap on the wrist?!!?

Didn't you see the new penalty handed out to Verge?
He can not attend football games this year!!!

Poor guy may never recover from such a punishment.

 

But seriously, I don't think the NCAA gets involved in this incident (others still floating around ....).
Mainly because it was said during the review that this was not athletics only and was a campus wide issue.  Which frankly is quite disturbing, but does help the football team.
Think about it like the UNC academic scandal a few years ago.  Because it was campus wide, the football team technically didn't break any bylaws.
 

8 minutes ago, houtiger said:

^{So, what are you worried about?  What do you think will happen?  Does anyone go to jail?  Anyone lose their job?  Is it all going to blow over?}

 

I don't think it will blow over. But LSU seems to be trying their damndest holding on to hope that it will.

I also don't think anyone goes to jail.

Losing jobs? I think eventually a head will have to roll.
IF we're proactive enough, it could be someone that's not necessarily a huge name and it will satisfy the masses.
IF we drag our feet, it will have to be a big head.  And only one of those currently employed by LSU was also employed when this was happening.