Game Topic: LSU vs Tennessee (2022) ... 11:00am ... ESPN

[Nutriaitch]

29 minutes ago, Nutriaitch said:

if you'd like i can also screenshot and circle his grades from his other profiles as well, because they all say basically the same thing.

 

what the hell:

247sports (note: 4 stars, and #5 at his position, not #1)

 

on3 (note: 4 stars, #6 at his position, not #1

 

and the only site to have him as a 5, Rivals (note: they call him a Pro_style, not dual sport)

 

 

so i guess if you want to call him a 5, go for it.
but the majority consensus on him is a 4 star.

[houtiger]

Rankings are like that, some people had him a 4, some had him a 5.  That is not the point of this discussion.

The point is that Daniels is not efficient passing the ball.  His completion percentage is high, because he is throwing short to medium routes primarily.

We played a good team in FSU and we stayed in it on Daniels legs.  We had a couple of cupcakes.  We managed wins over Moo U and Auburn, middle of the road SEC teams.  And we got trounced by Tenn.  We gained a lot of yards against Tenn., but didn't score.  The offense was inconsistent.  Daniels was coached to stand in the pocket and throw, and he did a better job, but moving the ball was inconsistent.  We know it was not all on Daniels, the o-line was poor, the receivers had drops, Tenn did not fear the running game.

But, you wrote the book on Daniels lack of vision, or decisiveness against Auburn.

If that's the problem, it is reasonable to consider making a change at QB.  Nuss is available.  Even if the 1A - 1B was a coach speak lie to keep the pressure on Daniels to improve, Nuss has shown in the spring and against Auburn, he can move the team.  Whether Howard was 4* or 5*, he was at the top of the QB class.  We have alternatives.

[Nutriaitch]

1 hour ago, houtiger said:

But, you wrote the book on Daniels lack of vision, or decisiveness against Auburn.

If that's the problem, it is reasonable to consider making a change at QB.  Nuss is available.

oh please ask me to break down Nussmeier's decision making.
because he makes Daniels look like Tom Brady

1 hour ago, houtiger said:

 Nuss has shown in the spring and against Auburn, he can move the team.

the team had 28 yards with him in the game.
a whopping 5 yards that Nuss actually accounted for.

1 hour ago, houtiger said:

  Whether Howard was 4* or 5*, he was at the top of the QB class.  We have alternatives.

except you keep using that "he was a 5*" as your reason to put him in.

a true freshman.
that weighs less than 200 pounds.
behind a horrible offensive line.

that is a recipe for disaster.

 

[houtiger]

1 hour ago, Nutriaitch said:

the team had 28 yards with him in the game.
a whopping 5 yards that Nuss actually accounted for.

LSU was nursing a 4 pt. lead, Auburn had not moved the ball in the second half.  The replay I saw only showed 5 of Nuss 6 passes.

1. 4 yd downfield to Boutte, in his hands, drop

2. 8 yd. downfield, sailed high

3.  5 yd. pass downfield to BTJ, on his hands, drop

4. pass to Bech at LOS, No gain.

5. 15 yd. pass to Nabers, 50-50 ball, hit him on the hands, drop.

The sixth pass was complete, but not on the replay I saw.

All passes were to the sideline more or less, out quickly, excellent zip, all on the hands except the one that sailed high.

Without the drops, Nuss would have been 5/6 for 83%.

[Nutriaitch]

7 minutes ago, houtiger said:

LSU was nursing a 4 pt. lead, Auburn had not moved the ball in the second half.  The replay I saw only showed 5 of Nuss 6 passes.

1. 4 yd downfield to Boutte, in his hands, drop

2. 8 yd. downfield, sailed high

3.  5 yd. pass downfield to BTJ, on his hands, drop

4. pass to Bech at LOS, No gain.

5. 15 yd. pass to Nabers, 50-50 ball, hit him on the hands, drop.

The sixth pass was complete, but not on the replay I saw.

All passes were to the sideline more or less, out quickly, excellent zip, all on the hands except the one that sailed high.

Without the drops, Nuss would have been 5/6 for 83%.

oh we playing what if now?

because you claimed we “saw” him move the ball against Auburn. 

 

[houtiger]

3 minutes ago, Nutriaitch said:

oh we playing what if now?

because you claimed we “saw” him move the ball against Auburn.

What I saw was an accurate passer consistently hitting his receivers on the hands.  Short passes, yes, but that is what the coaches called.  The execution problems were not on Nuss.  When Daniels is in, sometimes he makes a good throw, and sometimes even on short passes he is off.  He's not consistent.

[Nutriaitch]

1 hour ago, houtiger said:

What I saw was an accurate passer consistently hitting his receivers on the hands.  Short passes, yes, but that is what the coaches called.  The execution problems were not on Nuss.  When Daniels is in, sometimes he makes a good throw, and sometimes even on short passes he is off.  He's not consistent.

did you see the other games he’s played?
including a couple last year. 

because if so, there is almost no way to make an unbiased argument for him to play over Daniels. 

[houtiger]

19 hours ago, Nutriaitch said:

did you see the other games he’s played?
including a couple last year. 

because if so, there is almost no way to make an unbiased argument for him to play over Daniels. 

freshmen become sophomores and they get better, if they have the talent and coaching.  Some don't make enough progress, like many we have had at LSU the last 15 years.  As far as this year, when he got in, if he thought he was 1B of 1A, he may have pressed to show the coach he should get more playing time, and made a mistake.  Daniels has made a lot of mistakes, they were just not interceptions, they were lost opportunities.  BK even said, zero int's may not be a good thing, not taking enough chances.

[Nutriaitch]

45 minutes ago, houtiger said:

freshmen become sophomores and they get better, if they have the talent and coaching.  Some don't make enough progress, like many we have had at LSU the last 15 years.  As far as this year, when he got in, if he thought he was 1B of 1A, he may have pressed to show the coach he should get more playing time, and made a mistake.  Daniels has made a lot of mistakes, they were just not interceptions, they were lost opportunities.  BK even said, zero int's may not be a good thing, not taking enough chances.

throwing the ball to the other team more often than you throw TDs is much more costly mistake than not taking a downfield shot. 

[houtiger]

37 minutes ago, Nutriaitch said:

throwing the ball to the other team more often than you throw TDs is much more costly mistake than not taking a downfield shot. 

1 for 1, you are right.  However, if you pass up 10 downfield shots a game, where you might have connected on 5 or 6, that might be worse than hitting 4 and throwing one pick.  That is what BK said, maybe we would be better with another few ints. (as long as it is not too many), if we hit 5 longer gains per game.  That would loosen up the defense, spread them out, and make the running game go easier.

[Fishhead]

Houtiger, you have to see the issues with the OL. Without question the biggest issue with the offense and it would be nuts to put a true freshman in behind. 

I would like to see Nuss given more opportunity but there's zero reason to think it'd result in improvement offensively. The only game he showed excellent play was against NM. He was almost as good as Daniels

[LSUDad]

Enjoy! 
 

 

[Herb]

Funniest thing I've seen in a long time!