Nutriaitch Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 20 hours ago, Big T said: We don't need to play anyone to know that was a dumbsh*t plan. I mean do we? C'mon you are smarter than that, hell we've all said it since Sunday. ok, the 2 previous coaches we've had never learned from their mistakes. Even though we all pointed it out every week. know how we found out they didn't? we played somebody. 20 hours ago, Big T said: I totally understand your pov but no, we don't need to play Grambling to "learn" that. Rent-a-Win...ok. Tune up game...fine but learn anything no way. We already know. example: Les would-play this game, and would go even more run heavy than against other teams. just line up and bowl right through them. Wouldn't even attempt to work on things we'd struggled with previously. O would try to make threescore 68-0 to look like he was kicking people's ass. Saban on the other hand, will tinker and make changes based off previous games and practices. like changes in personnel and scheme. seeing those changes tells you the staff is working towards fixing the issues. all 3 win by 4 plus TDs. two of those 3 don't learn shyte. one of them does. So you can either trust somebody like Saban who absolutely believes you can learn from these games. or you can get in the Les and O mindset of "can't learn shyte so don't bother trying" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big T Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Man was I wrong. We learned that our defense is trash. Doesn't matter where we play Perkins unless we have 10 more of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big T Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 We also learned that we won't win many games this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 9/8/2023 at 11:00 PM, Fishhead said: LSU fans cannot be pleased lol. I am convinced that this is why Saban left when the NFL came calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 13 hours ago, Big T said: We also learned that we won't win many games this year. I think it is too early to make that proclamation and hope like hell you are wrong. The heat in Southern Louisiana is just starting to get close to any semblance of being bearable. The heat - along with what I posted in the Grambling game day thread w/ regard to the DL Coaching vacuum - I think are the 2 biggest factors in a lot of our problems. Unlike other places, our staff didn't endanger player health by pushing too hard in the record breaking heat. (Note I am talking about past years where players actually dropped dead at other schools.) With the exception of Missouri, Moo State, Alabama and Ole Miss, all of our SEC games are in Death Valley. Personally, I think we win 3 of those 4. We should beat Army and Georgia State. I am not too worried about Napier's team in Death Valley (though it will be an exciting game) and I think we likely beat Arkansas at home.The only ones that I am truly worried about are Auburn and TAMU at home. At the end of the day, I think we go 9-3 and a bowl game (no repeat to SEC championship game). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houtiger Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Before the season I picked us to go 10-2. That was based on Kelly talking up the progress in year 2, Daniels focus on vertical passing, improved o-line play as Campbell and Jones became soph's. That has not come to pass, yet. I think Kelly will get the team to improve week to week. It is still early. Denver Harris didn't play much last year, its like having a freshman out there, but a physical one. Looking at it now, Herb's 9-3 looks more probable than my 10-2. It looks like we are sacrificing the passing game to get Daniels runs, and I'm not sure that's a good trade off. If the o-line can open holes and the backs can get through them, we might be better off to give up Daniels running in return for a more dynamic passing attack. Nuss was not allowed to throw very much against Grambling because we already had a big lead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishhead Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, houtiger said: Before the season I picked us to go 10-2. That was based on Kelly talking up the progress in year 2, Daniels focus on vertical passing, improved o-line play as Campbell and Jones became soph's. That has not come to pass, yet. I think Kelly will get the team to improve week to week. It is still early. Denver Harris didn't play much last year, its like having a freshman out there, but a physical one. Looking at it now, Herb's 9-3 looks more probable than my 10-2. It looks like we are sacrificing the passing game to get Daniels runs, and I'm not sure that's a good trade off. If the o-line can open holes and the backs can get through them, we might be better off to give up Daniels running in return for a more dynamic passing attack. Nuss was not allowed to throw very much against Grambling because we already had a big lead. Harris was a mid-season AA, but then got kicked off the team at TAMU, so yeah lol. He played almost half a season (was suspended first game) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutriaitch Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 3 hours ago, houtiger said: Before the season I picked us to go 10-2. That was based on Kelly talking up the progress in year 2, Daniels focus on vertical passing, improved o-line play as Campbell and Jones became soph's. That has not come to pass, yet. I think Kelly will get the team to improve week to week. It is still early. Denver Harris didn't play much last year, its like having a freshman out there, but a physical one. Looking at it now, Herb's 9-3 looks more probable than my 10-2. have you seen the rest of the teams on our schedule play this year? 11-1 isn't out of the question at this point A&M lost to Miami Alabama lost to Tejas Auburn looked like liquid dogs hit against Cal Ole Miss needing a Tulane choke job to save the win Florida got manhandled by Utah 3 hours ago, houtiger said: It looks like we are sacrificing the passing game to get Daniels runs, we really aren't though. against FSU, he had 15 carries. 4 of those 15 were sacks. that leaves 11. twice he was passing but pocket broke down and he was forced to run. that gets you to 9. 4 times was either a Zone Read or a RPO where he kept instead of handing off, but was still a designed run play.based off his "read" or "tell". down to 5 now. and 1 designed run that was called specifically for JD and that's what I saw watching just the 1st half of the FSU game again in Film Study that leaves 4 possible running plays in the 2nd half. even if all 4 were called runs for him, that's still only 5 for an entire game. that's not an outlandish number for a running QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishhead Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 We should call MORE designed running plays for JD. If we designed the offense around his ability to run it'd be nearly unstoppable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutriaitch Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, Fishhead said: We should call MORE designed running plays for JD. If we designed the offense around his ability to run it'd be nearly unstoppable. the '07-'08 Florida offense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 52 minutes ago, Fishhead said: We should call MORE designed running plays for JD. If we designed the offense around his ability to run it'd be nearly unstoppable. Well, to add...we should be a very RUN HEAVY team this year and eat up the clock in order to keep the ball away from QBs who can pick apart our secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchertiger Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 55 minutes ago, Fishhead said: We should call MORE designed running plays for JD. I posted that somewhere else. Let him run!!! If that's his game, go for it, embrace it !!! Make teams have to account for that. He's not a pocket passer. So what! Tebow wasn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutriaitch Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Herb said: Well, to add...we should be a very RUN HEAVY team this year and eat up the clock we fired a guy for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishhead Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Nutriaitch said: the '07-'08 Florida offense? QB Power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dachsie Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Herb said: Well, to add...we should be a very RUN HEAVY team this year and eat up the clock in order to keep the ball away from QBs who can pick apart our secondary. It wont matter if we run or throw - the clock stays running til the 2 min mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 17 hours ago, Nutriaitch said: we fired a guy for that. Only one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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